This site provides a lot of free tips on making gold in World of Warcraft.

But for some people this isn’t enough information.  I work a full-time job, and play WoW in my spare time…and I focus most of my WoW playing on learning gold-making techniques.

But honestly there are some folks out there who do this for a living, and they create some really fantastic guides.  They spend WAY more time on it than I do.  (I like to think of it as the fact that I have a life!) 

Anyway, for a while I’ve provided links to most of the major gold guides out there.  Some are better than others, but they all provide mostly the same information in the gold-guide itself.  (Several include other bonuses, like leveling guides, etc.)

But there’s one that members of MakeWoWGold (folks that subscribe to the newsletter) actually provide feedback to me about.  It’s the one by Luke Brown, “Gold Secrets“.

I’m not sure why they seem to like that one more than the rest, but Luke does seem to add a bunch of bonuses that no one else has, including a forum with folks sharing tips with each other.  And his product is guaranteed, which is really cool.

So, if you want to learn a ton about making gold, keep browsing this website.  If you want a separate guide with all kinds of printouts and bonuses, check out the Gold Secrets Guide.   Like I said, it’s the only one that I have heard great things about (even though it’s not mine!).

It calculates cost of materials based on either Auction House or Vendor prices (or can pick the best of the two).  It adds up the cost of all the materials and then compares it to the Auction House sale value of the crafted item.  It flags items that can be crafted and sold for a profit.

Obviously this requires that you also have an auction house mod that captures average prices.  It can use the AH prices from Auctioneer, AuctionLite, AuctionMaster or Auctionator.  As long as you have one of those, it can correctly identify profitable recipes.

You can download the addon at curse.com: Lil Sparky’s Workshop

The advantage of daily quests is three-fold:

1) completing them earns faction reputation, which usually provides high-level rewards,

2) they are a consistent way of earning a known amount of gold (and the gold earned is usually at a higher rate for the time invested in it),  and

3) they are repeatable (obviously), so you can master the techniques needed to complete the quest quickly, and earn good gold (and rep rewards) over and over.

Technically there is a fourth advantage:  many of the quests can be lumped together and done at the same time.  This REALLY ups your gold-per-hour rate.

There is a new Daily Quest addon that tells you exactly how to complete each quest.  It provides map waypoints to point you in the right direction, and it teaches you how to group the quests so you can run them concurrently.

If you find yourself either needing to farm up some reputation for a reward you’re after, or you just need good, consistent gold at level 80, you need this addon.

It literally puts a waypoint arrow on your screen when you select the dailies for a given zone (or for a given faction), and you simply follow the on-screen instructions.  It is as close to automatic gold as you can get without using a bot (and getting kicked out of wow!).

Here’s the Daily Quest Guide/Addon download link.

MakeWoWGold.com is finally catching the Facebook wave.

My mother roped me into Facebook as a way to keep tabs on the family.  And my buddy is a stay-at-home dad Facebook junkie.  So naturally, I joined.

I’ve seen other cool sites create their own pages, and I like the natural updates to fans, easy discussion board, etc.  It looks like fun!!

So come “Find us on Facebook” and become a fan of MakeWoWGold.com there!

But I’ve been getting a lot of questions about how to set it up.

So I made this video below to walkthrough how to configure the addon. Enjoy!

I’ve been looking around for the best place to farm those, and I’ve found it. You will find “Flame Revenant” and “Raging Flame” at 83.71 in Wintergrasp.

To the bad part, you will only be able to farm this when your faction controls Wintergrasp. I’m not really sure if it’s a bad part though. When you farm there, you are sure that noone from the opposite faction are going to interrupt your farming by killing your mobs. Because the Flame Revenants, which has 100% chance to drop 1-3 crystallized fires (motes), can only be seen by the faction who controls Wintergrasp.

Okay, to some quick facts about this place :

Raging flame
*Has an approx. droprate of 25% on the crystallizers, 1-2 each drop.
*No special abilities
*Hits me as a cloth mage for 550~ firedamage per hit.
*Immune to fire spell damage, extra vulnerable to frost damage.
*12600 health, easy kills. Alot of them around the area.

Flame Revenant
*100% droprate on the crystallizers, 1-3 each drop
*4 spawns, 5 minute timer on the spawns. Giving around half an eternal each 5 minutes.
*Same as for Raging Flame, no special abilities.
*Actually not immune to fire spell damage.
*25200 health, average in difficulty. Melees could use bandages while farming these, since they hit fairly hard, dealing 1200 critical hits on me as cloth.

I farmed for one hour, while beeing alone there, to test how many eternals per hour you can get.

The result :

First 15 minutes – 2.1 Eternals
The next 15 minutes – 2.3 Eternals
~~ – 2.8 Eternals
~~ – 2.1 Eternals

With this said, I had 9.3 eternals within one hour as a Frost mage with green/blue level 80 gear.

A couple of observations from the short time I have been able to test:

1.  It’s definitely true that you cannot see the Revenants if your faction doesn’t control Wintergrasp.  You can still farm the other little guys, though.

2.  They drop some pretty nice gray items: 3g for gray weapons, and they all drop gray crystals that stack to over 3g very quickly.

3.  Remember: it is a PVP zone.  You’re flagged while you’re there.  If you’re not used to pee vee pee, be alert to opposing faction members coming to bother you, which could ruin your farming there.

UPDATE:  After some brief tests, I can definitely conclude that it is NOT worth farming if your faction doesn’t control the zone.  The little elementals don’t drop enough to make it worth it.  I’m still testing whether or not farming there will be worthwhile once we control it.

A couple of points:  I made about 2-300g per hour farming just the small elementals, between Crystallized and Eternal Fire, and the grays they drop.  So, if you can’t find a way to farm gold faster than that (like you have terrible crafting professions and don’t ‘play’ the Auction House), you can try it.  It seems kinda ‘meh’ to me.  The other problem is that: 1) you have to have the place to yourself…it’s a very small area, and hard to get alone there, and 2) if you ARE alone and a member of another faction comes, it interrupts your farming and makes your gold per hour rate go way down.

UPDATE #2:  With my faction in control of Wintergrasp, I decided to farm some Crystallized Fire.  After about 30 minutes of uninterrupted farming, I had about 200g worth of stuff (between grays and Crystallized Fire).  Sadly, though, about 50g of that was from mining the nodes that were right there.  So if you don’t have mining, it would be a little less.  My conclusion is that this is NOT a good spot for farming gold.  Especially with the chance of being interrupted to do a little PVP while trying to farm.  (The spot is so small, it is really rare to have it yourself.)

Some people might say, “well, at least I can farm the Eternal Fires I need and save me some gold!”  They should read the ‘Myths’ section on this site.  If you can find a faster way to make gold than 400g per hour, do that, and BUY the Eternal Fires you need.

I’m feeling irritable because of all the ads I still see for selling WoW gold. I personally think it stinks. Maybe I’m selfish, but I think it devalues the game. I know it can cause inflation…in other words a weapon that would normally sell for 300g might now sell for 1000g because there are people that can easily get 1000g by ordering it. And it’s a little unfair that people who don’t have extra spending cash in Real Life aren’t on a level playing field with people who do…I mean, it’s a game. Your personal economics should be left at the login screen.

But here’s a practical thought.

If you really do have enough Real Life spending cash, why buy gold? It’s risking getting your account banned.

Besides, the professional guides that are for sale can be bought for LESS than the cost of 2000g…and between the tips on this site and those guides, you can learn how to make 2000g over and over again!

So, to my mind, it doesn’t make sense from a practical standpoint to buy gold.

The cheapest WoW gold you can get is the gold you make yourself!

If you must spend money to get gold, please consider one of the following before you actually pay for gold itself:

Ultimate World of Warcraft Guide

This guide is enormous.  It’s actually a combo pack of leveling guides, gold guides, class guides, and some useful other stuff like macros, loot lists, etc.  The members area is pretty cool, allowing interaction with other proficient gold-makers.  The guarantee is what really locks this up as a top guide.  (UPDATED for Wrath of the Lich King!)

World Of Warcraft Gold Secrets

One of the most thorough gold-guides out there. He provides lots of useful bonus products, a private forum, etc. He offers a very good guarantee, so it’s worth trying.  (UPDATED for Wrath of the Lich King!)

World Of Warcraft WoW Valkors Gold Making Guide

A large guide, updated regularly. Lots of lists, and a lot of emphasis on the Burning Crusade. (UPDATED for Wrath of the Lich King!)

Warcraft Riches

A new WoW Gold Guide! This guy has compiled a lot of the strategies from many of the other guides…also with a strong guarantee.

WoW Wealth

This is a relatively new one. There are two great things about this guide: 1) it’s the most current one on the market and 2) it comes with some really cool Video Tutorials.

“Monopolizing the epic tailoring enchants is a great way to make money.

On my server, wednesday and sunday are the prime raid days. My own guild doesn’t raid on wednesday and on sunday we’re usually out of content by 10pm, so I’ve made it a habit of popping into the AH around 22:30 to buy out all the [Brilliant Spellthread] and [Sapphire Spellthread] and relist them with 500 gold margins.

When the raids end, people will be looking for new leg enchants and pay premium prices for them. I make 1500-2000 gold each time and those that don’t sell, I put back up at the regular prices or just use them myself.

Having made crazy amounts of gold with cutting [Runed Scarlet Ruby] a few weeks ago when I was one of two tailors with the cut on the server, I tried the same trick with them, but it didn’t work because it’s too easy for a random JC to come in, buyout a few raw gems and undercut me by a good margin and still make sweet profit.

My theory is that there is very few tailors left nowadays and of those, not everyone can make the spellthreads. Those that can, are likely in raids and are using any mats they have available to supply guildies with threads rather than trying to make gold through the AH.”

In theory, I like the concept of timing the sale for the end of a raid when raiders will want to buff up their new gear, and to monopolize some item that there are limited quantities of (and limited producers of).  This strategy obviously requires a good deal of gold to start with, but has great potential.

You can find the details about the addons here on the site, but here’s exactly what I do:

• I have installed Routes addon from Curse.com.
• I have installed Gatherer and Gathermate and Cartographer Mining and Herbalism addons.
• (UPDATE: use Gathermate_data addon as well to add the spawnpoints to your mods)
• I am level 80 and have an epic flyer.  (You can do it with a non-epic flyer, but might be a tad slower, obviously.)
• I have Mining and Herbalism maxed out.
• I go to Icecrown and use the Routes addon to create a route in Icecrown.  I add all the herbalism and mining waypoints from all of the addons that it can use (Gatherer, Gathermate, Cartographer).
• I ‘cluster’ the waypoints with the default setting of 60 yards.  That creates fewer waypoints for the route.  It will fly close enough to a mineral or herb spawn point without making me travel exactly from point to point.
• I use the Extra Optimization option from the Routes addon.  This makes the route as short as possible.
• I then simply fly around the route.  I’ll skip nodes that are in really dangerous spots, like the one next to the Elites or the cluster of evil paladins…it’s too much work to kill them just for some ore.
• Note:  I have both Herbalism and Mining.  So I use a simple ‘castsequence’ macro that’s bound to my Z key that toggles Find Minerals and Find Herbs back and forth.
• Note 2: I have a route that includes both herbs and ore which is long, and I can toggle back and forth.  I also have a route that is only for ore, and I stick with mining only for that one.  BOTH have produced 1000g per hour.

To calculate how much I’m making, I use the Auctioneer addon, with all the details in the tooltips added.  I use Appraiser when I’m at the auction house (that’s a tab available when you have Auctioneer installed).  I have customized my minimum settings so that I will almost always undercut the competition.  I don’t care.  I’m all about volume.  I’m not trying to squeeze every last copper out of each transaction.  That’s too much like work.  I’m in, I post my auctions, I’m out.  Movin’ on.  Yah…I’m sure some folks hate me for undercutting them all the time.  They’ll deal.  The market goes up and down, and somebody is happy because they were able to buy cheap goods.  I’m the WalMart of the Auction House…small business hate me, but the customers love me.  (And if crafters were smart they would contact me and work a deal where I provide for them.)

Anyway, when I’m at the Auction House, I open Appraiser, and just hit ‘Refresh’ on each item I’m about to post so it scans just that item.   No more long Auction House full-scans.  Just one item name at a time.  I use the Histograph as the calculation for the price, and the ‘Beat Competition’ box (or whatever it’s called) checked.  That makes me, almost always, the lowest priced items out there.

EVEN WITH UNDERCUTTING EVERYONE I AM MAKING 1000G PER HOUR.

It seems that, regardless of whether I’m just getting Ore, or both Herbs and Ore, the value of what I pull is pretty consistent.  I’ve noticed that no matter how many times I repeat the circuit, no matter what time of day, etc., I am getting a consistent average of Titanium ore, blue uncut gems, Frost Lotus, Crystallized Life and Fire, etc.

The exact way I calculate it is to empty my bags, go to Icecrown and trigger a self-buff that lasts 30 minutes.  Then I fly the route until the buff expires.  Then I mouse over each stack or item that I’ve gathered and look at the Undercut price in the tooltip, and add it up.  It’s always been a little over 500g after 30 minutes.  And it’s repeatable…I’ve done so many times to make sure it wasn’t a fluke.

If I wanted to make it even faster, I’d take advantage of the ‘Taboo’ feature of Routes, which blocks off certain areas.  This would be nice to avoid those sections where the Elites make it too tough to get to the nodes.  But I’m too lazy and am making too much gold just flying around as it is.

I usually just log on and chat with guildies while flying around waiting for an opening in a dungeon run or battleground.  There’s not much left for me to buy in the game, so I don’t farm ‘hard’…mostly I just do it for fun to see how much I can make, and to be able to splurge if I want to power-level a different profession on one of my other toons.

I hope this helps!

UPDATE:  I thought that after a few weeks the prices on everything would steadily decline, and that it wouldn’t truly be 1000 gph any more.  Well, I just finished a test run in Icecrown again, to compare to Sholazar Basin Mining.  I did exactly a 30-minute route around Icecrown, starting with empty bags, and went straight to the AH afterwards.  I refreshed all of my AH data so that I would be undercutting everyone…and posted 638 GOLD worth of auctions!!!  That is over 1200 gold per hour!  So this process still works.  (By the way, my mining route around Sholazar only netted me about 415 gold in 30 minutes, or just over 800 gold per hour.  I’m sticking with Icecrown, tyvm!)

In the beginning, as soon as the patch is out, many folks will be power-leveling their professions to the new max.  Some are already trying to acquire recipes and mats that will take their profession to the cap.

GATHER, GATHER, GATHER!!  In particular, mining and herbalism will be huge in the beginning.  Demand for ore and herbs will skyrocket and you’ll be able to set and command a high price.  If you are strictly interested in making gold, I recommend those two gathering professions…at least until the economy stabilizes.

After things settle, and your server gets a healthy population of level 80s, the end-game view of professions will be to have the more rare recipes on your servers.  These will be obtained by doing the daily quests for those professions, collecting the tokens and using them to get the unique recipes.

Having said that, there is still a risk with that.  Unless you can start collecting tokens from Day One, other crafters will be ahead of you in what recipes they can obtain.   So if you only have one level 80 toon, and you aren’t doing a crafting profession’s daily quests from the very beginning, other crafters will snag the good recipes.  In addition, even if you are the first to get the rare recipes, there will always be others who catch up to you (or have more time to grind than you do), who will eventually undercut you.  So, if you’re banking on being the only one on a server with a recipe, you’re rolling the dice.

There will always, ALWAYS be a need for gathered items.  Gold-makers know this, and collect like crazy, and other than manipulating the Auction House, it’s the most secure way of making gold repeatedly.

If you have read through this entire site, you know this advice already, but:  get on thottbot.com (the beta side), and find out what mats will be used, and in what quantities, to level up the crafting professions.  Stock up on those mats, because in the first few days, you won’t be able to keep them on the AH, regardless of how much you price gouge!

I must say… loving the fact that that epic gem market is still flourishing on my server.

I don’t do any dailies/farming/AH re listing at all anymore…. I just take my badges from weekly raiding and trade them in for epic gems and sell those.

Its still 300g for a Crimson Spinel… so with a kara run + regular MH/BT I can get 2 or 3 epic gems a week…. or 600-900g a week by doing absolutely nothing.

Thats enough for me to pay for raid consumables AND save up for my epic flyer (yes, no epic flyer yet).

So far I’ve gone from ~200g to 2400g since the epic gem vendor has been released.

So if you haven’t tried it yet, and you’re raiding regularly where the badges are, you can convert your badges to gems and sell the gems at the Auction House.

Is it just me, or have Netherweave cloth prices taken a dip lately?

The funny thing is that lately the price of Netherweave Cloth on the AH has been lower than the sale price of Heavy Netherweave Bandages.  A 20-stack of bandages sells to a vendor for 6g.  It takes 2 20-stacks of Netherweave Cloth to make the bandages.  Ergo, if you see Netherweave Cloth for sale under 3g per stack, snatch it up, and push ‘Make All’, and walk away.

If you can pick up the cloth for 2g 50s per 20-stack, you’re making 1g per full stack of bandages.  This isn’t huge amounts of gold, but hey…I don’t step over a dollar laying on the sidewalk if I see one!

Oh, sure, there’s changes to some recipes. And WOOT! for shortened cooldowns…from 24 to 20 hours. El Oh El. So helpful. Not.

2.4 was the major change, but 2.4.1 and 2.4.2 are minor tweaks with no real impact to the gold making effort.

You can check out the current patch notes here.

I did check out some of the bigger guides out there and the Gold Secrets one has been updated for 2.4 already. (Luke has been busy on the test realm!) So you can check that out if you’re looking for a big package like that.

If you want to know which Daily Quests to do, Curse.com has a good summary of all the dailies and lets you know which ones to do for gold and which ones take more time. I’m not 100% sure I agree with the guide yet though…it estimates 20-30 minutes for a whole pile of dailies. I’m not sure that all of them are available on all servers yet, and I would think that it depends on the class on how fast you can kill things. In addition, personally I haven’t gotten the knack of the new bombing run yet, and I’m not able to get it done in just one run (maybe because so many people are doing them at once…I can’t manage to tag 3 Sorcerers on one run). If you have to do the bombing run more than once it becomes less efficient from a gold-per-hour standpoint.

Good luck with the patch, your addons, etc., and I’ll be in touch!

UPDATE:  The dailies are nice, but the gold-per-hour rate still doesn’t come close to other methods listed here and in the guides.  You might make 250g in 1.5 hours doing dailies, but methods like using Cartographer for a mining route is still better.  The dailies are more interesting than ‘grinding’, and they don’t depend on the AH market.  So I leave it to you to decide how fast you want to make it, and how interesting you want your farming experience.

As hard as the old dungeons used to be, many of them can now be done with 2-3 players depending on class. So you head into the dungeon with one or two of your friends and split the profits later.

For example, you can go into Zul’Gurub and summon Gahz’ranka. (Look him up in Thottbot if you don’t know who he is or how to summon him). He drops the Tome: Polymorph Turtle. Not all mages have this ability, and per WoWEcon.com it averages 1300g these days. Some servers are getting as much as 2000 g!

So if you’re looking for something DIFFERENT to do for gold…you might try killing Gahz’ranka and selling the Turtle Tome and splitting the profit with your buddies.

(Keep in mind, the drop rate isn’t 100%, and ZG has a 3-day reset timeframe, but it’s still fun!)