The location is 77,63 in Storm Peaks, and it’s called Fjorn’s Anvil.

I should have known better, but I decided to give it a good, honest try.

It seems that the location has been nerfed in several ways.  The drop rate is somewhat nerfed.  Mainly the respawn rate is nerfed.  Not to mention all the elite level 80 mobs walking around among the Revenants (which is what you’re trying to farm).

Now, the elites drop over 1g each, but they have 50K hp.  If you can cruise through those with ease, this might be a good spot for you.  As a mage, I can kill them, but I have to burn cooldowns, which means I can’t just melt through them.

So, once again a gold-farming ‘hot spot’ turns into a myth.  I firmly believe that Blizzard is constantly monitoring areas like that.  They are striving to keep the game balanced…the minute a ‘hot spot’ appears, they find out about it and make the change.

UPDATE: This post = teh FAIL! So…I never completed the quest chain here…I had moved on to Icecrown. Thanks to the folks who submitted the comments letting me know that the elites go away once the quest chain is done.

So I spent two hours completing the quest chain to get it clear. Here’s what I discovered:

1. the respawn rate is, indeed, insanely high. You can chain pull non-stop. Very nice.

2. they do, indeed, drop a decent amount of Crystallized Fire and Relics of Ulduar. Nice.

3. they are not immune to fire. Nice.

I’ll go back and do an actual test (30 minutes speed killing, total up the loot drop), when I get a chance. For now, I retract the ‘Nerf’ cry…it seems like a decent place for people who can kill fast and don’t have gathering professions.

UPDATE #2: 30-minute test.

I did straight killin’ for 30 minutes. I’m a mage, so I can kill fast and furious. A few times I had some down-time due to having killed everything and no respawns. For the most part, though, the respawns were so quick that it kept me killing non-stop. There was one other player there…a hunter. We pretty much just left each other alone. He kept to the path leading to the anvil, and I worked the anvil and surrounding area. That just adds realism to the test, I think.

After 30 minutes I had 29 Crystallized Fire, 26 Relics of Ulduar, 22g in gray vendor trash, and about 30g in DE-able greens. (The DE value of the greens is about 30g total.) Prices will vary according to your server. On my server, that’s about 100g in Crystallized Fire and 30g in Relics. So…160g-ish in 30 minutes, or 320 gold per hour.

It seems reliable, consistent, and that was, as I said, WITH someone else there. A couple of other people dropped by and left. I’ve seen 3 people farm it…the respawns seem to speed up.

It’s not as good as gathering professions, but if you can kill fast and don’t want to give up your other professions, you might take a look. Just be sure to do the quest chain (starting at K3 – check WoWHead) to clear out the elites.

It calculates cost of materials based on either Auction House or Vendor prices (or can pick the best of the two).  It adds up the cost of all the materials and then compares it to the Auction House sale value of the crafted item.  It flags items that can be crafted and sold for a profit.

Obviously this requires that you also have an auction house mod that captures average prices.  It can use the AH prices from Auctioneer, AuctionLite, AuctionMaster or Auctionator.  As long as you have one of those, it can correctly identify profitable recipes.

You can download the addon at curse.com: Lil Sparky’s Workshop

The advantage of daily quests is three-fold:

1) completing them earns faction reputation, which usually provides high-level rewards,

2) they are a consistent way of earning a known amount of gold (and the gold earned is usually at a higher rate for the time invested in it),  and

3) they are repeatable (obviously), so you can master the techniques needed to complete the quest quickly, and earn good gold (and rep rewards) over and over.

Technically there is a fourth advantage:  many of the quests can be lumped together and done at the same time.  This REALLY ups your gold-per-hour rate.

There is a new Daily Quest addon that tells you exactly how to complete each quest.  It provides map waypoints to point you in the right direction, and it teaches you how to group the quests so you can run them concurrently.

If you find yourself either needing to farm up some reputation for a reward you’re after, or you just need good, consistent gold at level 80, you need this addon.

It literally puts a waypoint arrow on your screen when you select the dailies for a given zone (or for a given faction), and you simply follow the on-screen instructions.  It is as close to automatic gold as you can get without using a bot (and getting kicked out of wow!).

Here’s the Daily Quest Guide/Addon download link.

I’ve been looking around for the best place to farm those, and I’ve found it. You will find “Flame Revenant” and “Raging Flame” at 83.71 in Wintergrasp.

To the bad part, you will only be able to farm this when your faction controls Wintergrasp. I’m not really sure if it’s a bad part though. When you farm there, you are sure that noone from the opposite faction are going to interrupt your farming by killing your mobs. Because the Flame Revenants, which has 100% chance to drop 1-3 crystallized fires (motes), can only be seen by the faction who controls Wintergrasp.

Okay, to some quick facts about this place :

Raging flame
*Has an approx. droprate of 25% on the crystallizers, 1-2 each drop.
*No special abilities
*Hits me as a cloth mage for 550~ firedamage per hit.
*Immune to fire spell damage, extra vulnerable to frost damage.
*12600 health, easy kills. Alot of them around the area.

Flame Revenant
*100% droprate on the crystallizers, 1-3 each drop
*4 spawns, 5 minute timer on the spawns. Giving around half an eternal each 5 minutes.
*Same as for Raging Flame, no special abilities.
*Actually not immune to fire spell damage.
*25200 health, average in difficulty. Melees could use bandages while farming these, since they hit fairly hard, dealing 1200 critical hits on me as cloth.

I farmed for one hour, while beeing alone there, to test how many eternals per hour you can get.

The result :

First 15 minutes – 2.1 Eternals
The next 15 minutes – 2.3 Eternals
~~ – 2.8 Eternals
~~ – 2.1 Eternals

With this said, I had 9.3 eternals within one hour as a Frost mage with green/blue level 80 gear.

A couple of observations from the short time I have been able to test:

1.  It’s definitely true that you cannot see the Revenants if your faction doesn’t control Wintergrasp.  You can still farm the other little guys, though.

2.  They drop some pretty nice gray items: 3g for gray weapons, and they all drop gray crystals that stack to over 3g very quickly.

3.  Remember: it is a PVP zone.  You’re flagged while you’re there.  If you’re not used to pee vee pee, be alert to opposing faction members coming to bother you, which could ruin your farming there.

UPDATE:  After some brief tests, I can definitely conclude that it is NOT worth farming if your faction doesn’t control the zone.  The little elementals don’t drop enough to make it worth it.  I’m still testing whether or not farming there will be worthwhile once we control it.

A couple of points:  I made about 2-300g per hour farming just the small elementals, between Crystallized and Eternal Fire, and the grays they drop.  So, if you can’t find a way to farm gold faster than that (like you have terrible crafting professions and don’t ‘play’ the Auction House), you can try it.  It seems kinda ‘meh’ to me.  The other problem is that: 1) you have to have the place to yourself…it’s a very small area, and hard to get alone there, and 2) if you ARE alone and a member of another faction comes, it interrupts your farming and makes your gold per hour rate go way down.

UPDATE #2:  With my faction in control of Wintergrasp, I decided to farm some Crystallized Fire.  After about 30 minutes of uninterrupted farming, I had about 200g worth of stuff (between grays and Crystallized Fire).  Sadly, though, about 50g of that was from mining the nodes that were right there.  So if you don’t have mining, it would be a little less.  My conclusion is that this is NOT a good spot for farming gold.  Especially with the chance of being interrupted to do a little PVP while trying to farm.  (The spot is so small, it is really rare to have it yourself.)

Some people might say, “well, at least I can farm the Eternal Fires I need and save me some gold!”  They should read the ‘Myths’ section on this site.  If you can find a faster way to make gold than 400g per hour, do that, and BUY the Eternal Fires you need.

In the beginning, as soon as the patch is out, many folks will be power-leveling their professions to the new max.  Some are already trying to acquire recipes and mats that will take their profession to the cap.

GATHER, GATHER, GATHER!!  In particular, mining and herbalism will be huge in the beginning.  Demand for ore and herbs will skyrocket and you’ll be able to set and command a high price.  If you are strictly interested in making gold, I recommend those two gathering professions…at least until the economy stabilizes.

After things settle, and your server gets a healthy population of level 80s, the end-game view of professions will be to have the more rare recipes on your servers.  These will be obtained by doing the daily quests for those professions, collecting the tokens and using them to get the unique recipes.

Having said that, there is still a risk with that.  Unless you can start collecting tokens from Day One, other crafters will be ahead of you in what recipes they can obtain.   So if you only have one level 80 toon, and you aren’t doing a crafting profession’s daily quests from the very beginning, other crafters will snag the good recipes.  In addition, even if you are the first to get the rare recipes, there will always be others who catch up to you (or have more time to grind than you do), who will eventually undercut you.  So, if you’re banking on being the only one on a server with a recipe, you’re rolling the dice.

There will always, ALWAYS be a need for gathered items.  Gold-makers know this, and collect like crazy, and other than manipulating the Auction House, it’s the most secure way of making gold repeatedly.

If you have read through this entire site, you know this advice already, but:  get on thottbot.com (the beta side), and find out what mats will be used, and in what quantities, to level up the crafting professions.  Stock up on those mats, because in the first few days, you won’t be able to keep them on the AH, regardless of how much you price gouge!

However, in combination with the Routes, GatherMate and GatherMate_Data, Herb/Mining becomes more viable.

Aside from the super-nice routing feature (see the other post on that!), it also displays spawn points on your mini-map. You can filter which spawn points you want to see, and you can scale how big they appear on the mini-map. The way it works is that when they are outside of the range that you could detect it, the mini-map displays an icon that represents the specific herb/ore. Once it’s in range, it turns into an empty circle, IF you are detecting that type of spawn…in other words if you have Find Herbs on, ore spawn points will always display the ore pictures, but herb pictures will turn into empty circles when you’re in range to detect the yellow dot. If you see empty circles, and they stay empty for a split second, then you know that nothing is there and you can move on.

So here’s what I do now (now that I dropped Tailoring and re-leveled Herbalism to go with my mining)…

I have a macro:

/castsequence Find Herbs, Find Minerals

I have that bound to a key. Clicking that key will toggle tracking herbs and ore every time I click it. (There is a global cooldown of 1 second, but that’s ok.)

Next, I setup my route to track the most-valuable herb and the most-valuable ore in a given zone. For example, in Shadowmoon Valley, I make a route for Nightmare Vine and Adamantite Ore. This path will cover most of the map. If I miss a few spawnpoints of Felweed or Fel Iron Ore, I’ll live. The route will go near enough to many of them anyway for me to track them.

As I’m flying around following the route, I look on my minimap to see what kind of spawn points are around. Then I hit my macro key to switch the tracking back and forth between ore and herbs. But because of Cartographer I know WHICH one I should be tracking. For example, if there’s a stretch of route that has herbs and no ore, I can tell because of what is being displayed in the minimap, and I don’t need to switch. If I’m coming to a cluster of spawn points that has both, I’ll keep one on (Herbs, for example), and when I enter that cluster, the herbs turn to circles…THEN I’ll click the macro and switch to Ore, and check those empty circles.

It’s tough to describe, but if you have either Herbalism or Mining and use Routes you’ll see what I mean.

If you need help getting your Herbalism or Mining profession up to speed quickly, probably the best guide I’ve seen for speed leveling is Penn’s.

Here’s a video tutorial I created to show how to setup Routes: